dont get me wrong, I thought the movie was really really good, but i think the special effects and tricks were messy. if you pay REALLY close attention Batman and the others did a lot of really cool tricks/stunts. if you were passively watching the movie you missed a lot of them. of course the movie had to be dark with a lot of grey and black, but that made it harder to see what was going on and my friends and i missed all kinds of cool stuff that happened. only on comparing notes did we realize how much we missed. I am all for dark themed movies, but you miss a lot of stuff you think is background when all of the people are wearing black in a dark room. the fight and action scenes would have been better with a bit more contrast in the movie. of course i loved it like everyone else in my group, but it didnt electrify me and hype me up like i usually get from action movies, so i just wasnt as impressed.