First I'll point out the "bad," the movie is a little drawn out for all that it accomplishes, and there are certain aspects of Batman that seem to be left out, I mean he is supposed to be the worlds greatest detective right? The good it gets everything else right for what I understand about Batman and its is a fairly good movie on its own merit. I did enjoy the villain and retrospectively the thematic connections between the Joker, Batman, Gotham, and Harvey was really refreshing. Webster may have to redefine hero.