So, let's be brutal, because I am tired of the Batman franchise churning out lame movies. It was Average, not poor, but not great either. Honestly, this movie has no clue what it wants to do, or be. It is a poor combination of action movie, thinly played love story, and examination of some conflicting characters. For an action movie, it is was way too long at 2.5 hours for its thin content. I wanted to scream "hurry up" at several points when you get the same repeated sceen of the Joker creating havoc, or Bruce/Batman searching his soul for the x'th time. I was lead to believe they had 3+ hours of footage they had to cut down. That would have been painful unless there was some actual plot elements in there. There were hardly any in the main movie as it was. In such a 'dark' movie, with such a sense of tragedy / impending doom, it is almost embrassing that we are expected to believe that Bruce/Batman would do such brooding/pondering about Harvey Dent? There is no way that Bruce/Batman would be that naive or star-struck, or for that matter would trust anyone in the first place. And he would not need 2 hours to do it. Now, the Joker is a great character, but when you just get repeated sceens of him blowing stuff up, or the pathetic escape from the police holding cells, he becomes completely one dimensional, almost like an annoyance. It spoils what could have been an Oscar-worthy performance if only he had had a plot line to follow (Heath Ledger was very, very good). As for Batman himself, well he gets completely dwarfed by all the junk in the plot. All we see is Bruce being Bruce, i.e. shallow and kind of pointless (more supermodels anyone?) When we do see Batman he is full of self pity. Christian Bale tries to make something work, but does not seem to be able to pull Bruce/Batman out of the self-pity until the last five minutes. Hardly entertaining to watch 2 hours of sulking. Just give the Lamborghini back and move away to Mexico or something. That is the paradox. This is neither an action movie, nor something more complex like a study of the character elements - the nihilism etc. It is a poor mish mash. When are we finally going to get a Batman movie that gets it? They need to combine Batman Begins and Dark Knight, cut out the waffle, cut out the love story, and see what happens. I am only glad I did not rush to see it.